/int/ - International

Vee haff wayz to make you post.

Eintragsmodus: Antworten [Zurück] [Gehe nach unten]

Betreff:
Säge:
Kommentar:
Zeichnung: x Zeichenfläche
Dateien:
Passwort: (Kommentarlöschung)
  • Erlaubte Dateitypen: GIF, JPG, PNG, NetzM, OGG, ZIP und mehr
  • Maximale Anzahl von Dateien pro Post: 4
  • Maximale Dateigröße pro Post: 100.00 MB
  • Lies die Regeln bevor du postest.

de Bernd 2025-07-28 19:19:13 Nr. 4196
I've been a pirate my whole life. But isn't it uber evil? Shouldn't I support the creators and publishers and artists who release good stuff, so they can release more good stuff? I'm not even poor, yet I pirate.
Bernd is also pirate. Well, Bernd is not poor but if Bernd would have paid for all the stuff he did pirate Bernd would have been spending 1k NG per month at least. That's not feasible. There is too much to consume with to high prices. Well too high in the sense of a bluray costs 50-80 NG per disc and has only 2-4 episodes. Imagine buying a whole series each season. And streaming? If you want to see everything in good quality without ads That's out if question, if Bernd pays for something ads are absolutely unacceptable you would have to make at least 5 subscriptions for 15-20 NG each. And the same for music, newspapers. Hell, even to see youtube legal without ads you have to pay. Also most of the money spend on the final products go to the capitalists. The creators receive a very small amount. If you really want to support your favourite creator, just try to donate directly to them.

Datei öffnen 82.08 KB, 600x446
Pfostenbild
Bernd pirated as a broke high schooler, Bernd pirated as a broke student, Bernd pirated as a doctoral candidate with a liveable income, Bernd is still pirating with a 6-figure income. Bernd just doesn't give a fuck.
You should definitely support things you like. When someone does something for you, that you enjoy, wouldn't you want to repay with kindness? Pirating isn't wrong, but you wouldn't want to see a person or group whose products you enjoy to go under and then never see more of those products, right?
> But isn't it uber evil? No. The concept of "Intellectual Property" is naughty by it's genesis. Statute of Anne, grandfather of modern Copyright Laws, was the result of a bribe to the English Queen Anne by the Stationers' Company.
Over here, regulating piracy is about the same as regulating farting. You can download whatever the hell you want, no one even thinks about bothering to do anything about it. It's because of living standards - what is just a minor and acceptable expense in developed countries, over here it's actually a significant chunk of one's budget. The expenses are unexplainably high - especially post-Covid, when the price of everything skyrocketed - and the wages are pure, 24 carat shit. The average monthly salary in Bosnia is currently 1.565 KM, (divide by half to get €) while the average monthly expenses are 3.178 KM. There was a movie from Serbia a few years back whose creators actually pursued those who illegally shared it online, one guy actually had the police come to his home and arrest him for sharing it. That was the only such example around these parts and it was so unusual that people mocked whole thing.
>>4216 So you think an artist shouldn’t get any money for the art he’s creating or what?
>>4242 No, I think government shouldn't enforce antipiracy laws. I'm totally fine with obtaining non-exclusive rights for copy, totally fine with DRM, but "you'll be jailed for nonviolent crime of seeding torrents" is fucking bullshit
>>4244 But that's not really what this thread is about. It's about the moral obligation (if it exists?) of the individual who's pirating.
>>4196 Especialls paywalled Patreon artists are scammers and too lazy to get a job.
>>4196 On a philosophical level: the access to art can not and should not be paywalled. On a pragmatic level: pirates are not going to buy your shit anyway, it's not money lost, it's money that were never going to be spent anyway. On a practical level: a pirate might like it so much that he will specifically chose to pay you. On a moral level: if your first and foremost goal of creating any art is to sell it, then it is not art but a product, so you should not be surprised that pe0ople are not going to have any sympathy for your crocodile "artist" tears about piracy and AI, when it's crystal clear that your only concern is sales and not diminished artistic expression capability. And finally, on my personal level: I do not give a single flying fuck, deal with it. I might pay for some entertainment when I feel like rewarding it, but in general -- just go fuck yourself, I'm going to pirate whatever the fuck I want and whenever the fuck I want, because the reward for the worktime in my shit life in this shit world is not worth spending on some shit momentary entertainment that I will at best remember in a year with "ah, yeah, cool stuff I guess". Go bully some clueless retard into thinking that some imaginary """poor""" """artist""" is going to suffer because I didn't pay 9.99 for youtube premium, or whatever bullshit you're implying here.
>>4330 Bernd totally agrees to the first part.
The worst are artists who at first draw a comic or write a story for free on their blogs or twitters and put a donation button. Well if the comic is really worth it, Bernd would even donate. But then later, when they get famous, starting to put everything behind a paywall. At this point Bernd will never spend any more money on it and pirate the living shit out of it. Bernd hates such capitalism oriented artists so much. It's unreal.