/int/ - International

>>10905 >>10916 guys, guys, can you explain this shit to me? - I had 4 dollars, then lost 2, now I have 2 - I read from page 2 to page 4, and I read 3 pages why does this happen? why 4 - 2 = 2 in the first, but 4 - 2 = 3 in the second the famous 'add one before you're done'

Why isn't she wearing her anime e-girl bodysuit for the fletched-teeth passive-aggressive German scientist mommy gf ASMR?

>>10921 kek, I'm just a boomer. It's an imageboard for me. Even the audioless webms on 4chins surprise me, but feature-length videos with sound here? That's not my KC anymore. Alright, I'll watch it when I have a few minutes to spare. At least it doesn't give the attention whore clicks.

>>10877 >Welcome to another episode of Sabine's getting herself into trouble See what I mean? Rage baiting, attention whoring. I'm already sick of it and I just wanted to watch the beginning while brushing my teeth.

>>10931 >>10920 My teeth are clean and >Our dear Sabine called some study BS It's clear now that OP didn't link that video after all. He attached a reaction video or whatever this "dear diary" style of video is called. Maybe she makes excellent points later on, but so far it's standard YouTube time sink shit. I was half expecting her to advertise NordVPN, but I guess that's more a meme than a sponsor to all those shitty stereotypical YouTube videos. I'll watch the rest later. Not out of interest, not because I think it'll be good, but because I respect Bernd.

>>10945 I unfollowed her after she started making some of her videos exclusive for paying members of her channel, but they were still cluttering my FreeTube feed. StarTalk and PBS for the win!

Last samefaggotry, I swear. I watched the full video, again, for you Bernd. Here are some thoughts >The style I already said most of it, but it doesn't get better. Typical 2020's YouTube content creator style. I have several hobbies where channels feel the need to pump out 2-3 videos per week in this same style. Why when you have nothing to say? Okay, at least Sabine is trying to say something here. >Thanks to you I am now financially independent Or, thanks to you, I am now financially dependent on pushing new content out that keeps people engaged. Like and subscribe pl0x >It's bullshit because that's what it is Clever logic here. >Cosmology (she cites some physicist) I don't understand enough about cosmology to say more than that I acknowledge what that other physicist wrote. >Most of you can see the problem better than those who work on it How nice of her. She makes us feel smart. In fact, smarter than those scientists. I see why people watch her. I didn't even need to do anything to feel smart. >Long rants about theories that don't work I can only believe her here, since she's a theorist and I'm not. But she says a lot of words without talking about the subject. She makes no attempt to convince me (the audience) WHY they are wrong. Or what they're attempting and how it could be better. It's just feelings and circular reasoning "it's wrong because it's been wrong for a long time". >End of the world analogy Yes, she's just repeating her point again and again. Stop trying to tell us analogies, we get it. You think it's stupid. But why? What she said could have been a 3 minute video. Why does she talk for over 20? She repeats her point over and over again without supporting it. And then she makes fun of pseudoscience lmao. N.B. On a feelings level I even agree with her that there are too many theories about DM and BSM physics. She might have some very good points. But she is doing a terrible job at communicating this. She's peddling to Dunning-Kruger retards. I hate her. She's worse than everything that's wrong with academia.

>>10961 ...so you unfollowed some who's videos you were otherwise watching because of malfunction of a third-party software?

>>10964 >...so you unfollowed some who's videos you were otherwise watching because of malfunction of a third-party software? Yes, gigachad.tiff Actually, I don't think that is a malfunction. Freetube simply states that it can't display the video, because it requires a Google account login and a paid membership to view. I don't even know if the listing itself is a big, since Freetube only lists what it gets from Youtube. Admittedly, I never checked on Youtube whether the listing is the same, but since I don't plan on abandoning Freetube, it doesn't matter anyway. And, to be honest, I agree with a lot of things Swissball said, she isn't that gret to begin with, I think PBS and Startalk mog her anyway. Have a young hot Sabine for your entertainment, though.

It goes back to the question whether mathematics are invented or discovered. I'd argue the only parts of maths that are real are those which are implemented in reality, those which can be computed. Pi is not a number, but a function computing something. I don't think inventing new maths is purely bullshit, but it shouldn't be used for physics. Physics is about physical reality and should use only real maths, then you couldn't invent new theoretical particles or similar bullshit without evidence.

I hate Sabine and every other physicost who promotes Eternalism

Sabine says free will does not exist and then gives her audience the advice to decide living life like free will exists. I hate scientist who think they are philosophers.

>>10985 Free will is a meme anyway. What does that even mean?

>>10985 We do have a will but it's not free of the causal chain of thangs any more than the inanimate nature is

>>10977 Why? Eternalism will be real one day, that's not the question. The only question is how long it's gonna take. Sabine is pretty realistic and relaxed about that. Lately that's also happened to her stance on AI. She was obviously a bit too optimistic and uninformed in the beginning, but now that she's done her research and had more exposure to the currently existing technology she has started calling the current models "incomplete AI". I think all over all she still does a better job than most others. The style of videos she has settled on is no longer the explainer type, but a conversation between her and her viewers. She always openly admits what she doesn't know and when she says "tell me what you think in the comments" it's not just to create engagement for a video on a topic she is never going to pick up again (like others do), she actually comes back to it. There's also a lot of exclusive content she makes for her Patreons that hardly anybody here knows about and therefore can't judge.

>>10985 > Sabine says free will does not exist and then gives her audience the advice to decide living life like free will exists What other option is there?

>>10990 Eternalism = a philosophy of time according to which there is no change in the universe and all moments exist simultaneously

>>10994 Sorry, I actually confused that.

>>10996 You thought of transhumanism.

>>10990 >There's also a lot of exclusive content she makes for her Patreons that hardly anybody here knows about and therefore can't judge. If only Bernd would post them to the Sabine thread...

>>10963 So it's not exactly your field and you don't like her style. Thanks I guess. 🙏

>>10986 It means that sentient beings have control over their choices, as opposed to functioning like machines. Western society is predicated on the former hypothesis, which allows for things like merit, guilt and more generally the sanctity of human life. The latter is the newer, more globohomo-y interpretation. Just listen to Yuval Harari's hot takes to see where that line of thinking leads to. >>11012 I don't think he's talking about naughty cosplay pictures, Bernd. :(

>>11037 >I don't think he's talking about naughty cosplay pictures But we don't know that! I theorise that there may be many such pictures.

>>11037 >It means that sentient beings have control over their choices, as opposed to functioning like machines. But what is the deciding factor for a decision? If you can choose between two alternatives you always have a reason to choose one of them over the other, if not it would just be a random decision.

I don't know her still, and from what I've heard I don't really trust her. But academia universally is a cesspool of incredibly insecure totalitarian snobbish idiots that only achieve so-called "progress" and knowledge incidentally. Even if she criticizes academia, she doesn't really seem able to point out the real problems with it, only the superficial discrepancies that arise as consequence. >the personal qualities of present-day professors are such that we may find among them even exceptionally stupid people like Tugan. But the social status of professors in bourgeois society is such that only those are allowed to hold such posts who sell science to serve the interests of capital, and agree to utter the most fatuous nonsense, the most unscrupulous drivel and twaddle against the socialists. The bourgeoisie will forgive the professors all this as long as they go on “abolishing” socialism. >>10942 This isn't a math problem, but a semantic one. If you say you read from 2 to 4, people assume you read all of 2, all of 3 and all of 4. But money can only be counted in discrete terms: you either have the full dollar or you don't; even if you have half a dollar bill, local laws may declare that either 1 or 0 dollars. Same with a broken penny, it's either a full penny or no penny at all.

>>11037 >as opposed to functioning like machines. We have decision-making machines now... they are no less deterministic than any other machine, even if we cannot clearly understand why it makes one or another decision.

>>11080 True, but you must have competing reasons on either side of a choice, otherwise it's no choice at all right? >>11116 So you're saying we might be just like AI? Then why are we conscious? There is no need for consciousness for a contraption to work it seems.

>>11115 >This isn't a math problem, but a semantic one. finally someone gave me the answer (I mean irl question that I was bugged about for years, not just itt), tx so yeah, if I re-phrase 'I lost my dollars from 2nd to 4th' only it becomes equivalent to the pages problem I don't think it is related to the discreteness as pages can also be considered discrete

>>11142 >True, but you must have competing reasons on either side of a choice, otherwise it's no choice at all right? Sure, if I like the taste of tea and hate that of coffee, I will probably never drink coffee, even if I had the choice to. Then you can ask, why you like the taste of tea and that's probably just your genes. A reason to drink coffee would be because of the caffeine for example, but then you are in a situation, where you want the effect of the caffeine and don't care about the taste. Now where is your will free in this case? There is always a reason for each choice.

I don't like STEM people. They are so smug yet can't accept that science is their religion. Without philosophy science is same as making content for onlyfans.

11157 >Without philosophy science is same as making content for onlyfans. Physicist Bernd here. That's an incredibly bad analogy. First of all, we don't make nearly as much money, and second, writing grant proposals is far more humiliating than showing off your body on the internet.

>>11159 It's all about money man.

Kinda sad that she's only appealing to anti intellectuals nowadays, her early content wasn't even bad. But the sweet grifter money got too much.

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>>11212 That's how "the algorithm" works. She tried to also put the videos on TikTok, but short-form videos don't work for her content, so she's stuck on YouTube. And on YouTube you either make it to a couple million followers or don't make any money at all. In my opinion she calmed down a bit over the last couple of weeks, probably because her follower count has now doubled within a year and the sponsorship issues have been solved. The last couple of videos focused more on her core areas of expertise again. Honestly I would have expected much more drama about the thing with the Munich Center for Mathematical Philosophy, but she just posted videos about Quantum Computing, Black Holes and that one paper that estimates the information throughput of a human brain to be ~10 bits/s instead.

She looks like a crazy cat lady. Does she have someone to stuff her holes? I also liked some of her early stuff, but I think she has really gone off the rails.

Time for a short story Bernd Ted Chiang - What's expected of us --- This is a warning. Please read carefully. By now you've probably seen a Predictor; millions of them have been sold by the time you're reading this. For those who haven't seen one, it's a small device, like a remote for opening your car door. Its only features are a button and a big green LED. The light flashes if you press the button. Specifically, the light flashes one second before you press the button. Most people say that when they first try it, it feels like they're playing a strange game, one where the goal is to press the button after seeing the flash, and it's easy to play. But when you try to break the rules, you find that you can't. If you try to press the button without having seen a flash, the flash immediately appears, and no matter how fast you move, you never push the button until a second has elapsed. If you wait for the flash, intending to keep from pressing the button afterwards, the flash never appears. No matter what you do, the light always precedes the button press. There's no way to fool a Predictor. The heart of each Predictor is a circuit with a negative time delay — it sends a signal back in time. The full implications of the technology will become apparent later, when negative delays of greater than a second are achieved, but that's not what this warning is about. The immediate problem is that Predictors demonstrate that there's no such thing as free will. There have always been arguments showing that free will is an illusion, some based on hard physics, others based on pure logic. Most people agree these arguments are irrefutable, but no one ever really accepts the conclusion. The experience of having free will is too powerful for an argument to overrule. What it takes is a demonstration, and that's what a Predictor provides. Typically, a person plays with a Predictor compulsively for several days, showing it to friends, trying various schemes to outwit the device. The person may appear to lose interest in it, but no one can forget what it means — over the following weeks, the implications of an immutable future sink in. Some people, realizing that their choices don't matter, refuse to make any choices at all. Like a legion of Bartleby the Scriveners, they no longer engage in spontaneous action. Eventually, a third of those who play with a Predictor must be hospitalized because they won't feed themselves. The end state is akinetic mutism, a kind of waking coma. They'll track motion with their eyes, and change position occasionally, but nothing more. The ability to move remains, but the motivation is gone.

>>12398 Before people started playing with Predictors, akinetic mutism was very rare, a result of damage to the anterior cingulate region of the brain. Now it spreads like a cognitive plague. People used to speculate about a thought that destroys the thinker, some unspeakable lovecraftian horror, or a Gödel sentence that crashes the human logical system. It turns out that the disabling thought is one that we've all encountered: the idea that free will doesn't exist. It just wasn't harmful until you believed it. Doctors try arguing with the patients while they still respond to conversation. We had all been living happy, active lives before, they reason, and we hadn't had free will then either. Why should anything change? “No action you took last month was any more freely chosen than one you take today,” a doctor might say. “You can still behave that way now.” The patients invariably respond, “But now I know.” And some of them never say anything again. Some will argue that the fact the Predictor causes this change in behaviour means that we do have free will. An automaton cannot become discouraged, only a free-thinking entity can. The fact that some individuals descend into akinetic mutism whereas others do not just highlights the importance of making a choice. Unfortunately, such reasoning is faulty: every form of behaviour is compatible with determinism. One dynamic system might fall into a basin of attraction and wind up at a fixed point, whereas another exhibits chaotic behaviour indefinitely, but both are completely deterministic. I'm transmitting this warning to you from just over a year in your future: it's the first lengthy message received when circuits with negative delays in the megasecond range are used to build communication devices. Other messages will follow, addressing other issues. My message to you is this: pretend that you have free will. It's essential that you behave as if your decisions matter, even though you know that they don't. The reality isn't important: what's important is your belief, and believing the lie is the only way to avoid a waking coma. Civilization now depends on self-deception. Perhaps it always has. And yet I know that, because free will is an illusion, it's all predetermined who will descend into akinetic mutism and who won't. There's nothing anyone can do about it — you can't choose the effect the Predictor has on you. Some of you will succumb and some of you won't, and my sending this warning won't alter those proportions. So why did I do it? Because I had no choice.

Pre-2022-Sabine with the really quirky clothes and the really quirky jokes was best Sabine, but I don't blame her, she needs to make money and going back after pissing off so many people would be impossible. I think she really likes to piss off people.

>>12406 The most famous pisser-offer, Socrates, was executed by drinking poison.

>>12407 I like to watch her, I wouldn't like to be her. Or Socrates.

>>10985 I literally have the same attitude, except I'm a little less sure than 100% that free will doesn't exist. The conclusion is the same, act as if it exists. Of course I did NOT get the idea for that from JooToob physics cat lady.

>>12406 I think she was okay up until around 2024, but then came the constant screaming. She doesn't speak normally anymore, she literally screams. Somehow it seems to work. Bernd remembers when she had less than half a million followers, now she's going strong towards two million.

>>12430 just turn down the volume a bit Bernd

>>10942 Imagine you have a book with 4 pages. You have read the first page. So you have one. How many pages do you need to read until you finished page 4? 3. I mean brother. You have 4 beers, and you drank one already. Now you drink from beer 2-4. Its really not that hard. putting the bookmark on page 2 is like opening the 2nd beer.

While I was a student, around 2010 or maybe a little earlier, I stumbled upon a blog by a young German postdoc working in the USA. I just recently remembered that blog, and it clicked, yep, that blogger was Sabine Hossenfelder.

>>12434 You are Italian. You wouldn't understand, because Italians never speak, they only yell.

>>10985 this is really funny and proves shes just a smart idiot, imagine someone told her "no I WILL live MY life as if there is not free will, I MAKE that decision" Smart idiots are those who can be brilliant in a field crunching numbers and recognizing patterns they were told to recognize. So no wonder that everything is bullshit science for her since shes trained for that, like a bloodhound. The moment she tries to make an innovative claim it ends up being the most shallow contrarian statement even. You dont even have to form a syllogism to point out how ridiculous it is to REQUEST from an agent you claim has no free will to ACT like they have free will?

>>12613 >t.

>>12788 I was serious. You wouldn't understand, because you are from a culture that uses their screaming voice for speaking. Turning the volume down won't change it, it's not about the volume. It's about her screaming. Not >>12430 btw.