/int/ - International

Too much hassle with building a camp. Better to kill Poles everywhere they live https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia

>>21834 Why would you want to kill Poles? They are a very helpful people. Many of the United States concentration camps are located in Poland. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_black_sites Maybe if Ukrainians and Poles were better friends, Poles would help Ukrainians place there camps there as well.

No I don't want to go to such macabre places.

In Germany they are very eager to visit this places too. Bernd doesn't get the point of visiting such places. That doesn't mean to forget what happened in WW2 but visiting the place of a mass murder will not change anything. Also in Germany you get all the historic details already in school.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wauwilermoos_internment_camp

I visited Auschwitz I was visiting Krakow and the main tourist things were visiting the salt mines or visiting Auschwitz. In hindsight I should have chosen the salt mines, because it was a bit depressing. Things that stayed in my memory were a schizo American /pol/ tier black man who kept trying to convince the tour guide that holocaust wasn't real, and a Dutch guy who claimed to have eaten the best hot dog of his life in a shop outside Auschwitz and wouldn't stop talking about it.

>>21832 >If I were to visit your country, which concentration camps should I go see? McDonald's.

>>21875 I was in Krakov too two years ago. Nice city, beautiful. Got a cheap appartment in old town next to the university at this big market. But I didn't visit Auschwitz. It was disgusting too see how they advertized Auschwitz there like its some attraction like an amusement park.

Any polish deathcamp will do

Dachau>alle

Only camp I've visited was KZ Sachsenhausen near Oranienburg (Brandenburg).

>>21889 Yeah probably Dachau because Himmler had them produce beautiful figurines there

>>21878 > It was disgusting too see how they advertized Auschwitz there like its some attraction like an amusement park.

>>21893 Of course it's Fredrick the Great...

>>21867 Because there’s a difference between learning about something from a book and visiting the site of many mass killings, seeing the ovens and gas chambers, the remaining clothes etc. The experience is much more visceral.

>>21877 >McDonald's. I have been on multiple guided tours throughout Europe. Rome, Paris, Vienna, it doesn't matter. This is the first and only question Americans ask when the tour bus drops you off.

Is there ever going to be a point where towns aren't solely identified by concentration camps from 80 years ago? If you google L.A., the first result isn't 'Home of the Rodney King Riots'

>>22028 At least its not "I am not American I am Canadian". And expecting foreigners to be able to differentiate the two.

So many wonderful places to practice the guild cult!

>>22050 Do you have a better word for it?

>>22050 Fuck off.

>>22051 Historical sites?

>>22054 So many historical sites to practice the guilt cult!

>>22055 Go back to Germany.

>>22056 I'm not German tho

I really wonder what stake a swiss person has in caring about the real existing and well-documented german Schuldkult.

>>22058 That's why I said the other Swissball is a German immigrant "expat". Personally, I'm just for keeping KC mostly kohlfree, and "guilt cult" is some prime kohl cancer, so go take it back there.

>>22059 Yeah but I ain't. How about hiding the thread or applying for a mod position instead of constantly derailing shit with your whining?

>>22059 >and "guilt cult" is some prime kohl cancer, Spoken like someone who started their lurking life on the Kohl. Just for context: It's been a term for quite some time now, and more and more people are agreeing with it because those profiting off it (not necessarily jews) have been continuously overdoing it. And Israel exposing itself as a literal nazi state doesn't help either. Sage for rvss

>>22060 Nice projection, Hans. The derailment was starting with the guilt cult in a thread about concentration camps.

>>22063 I figured it's a big thing in Germany, which is probably why the Gummihals cares about it. >those profiting off it The gift shop in Auschwitz selling fridge magnets and novelty t-shirts to people like OP? Well, let's not do further rvss, but I just found that idea funny and wanted to share. Also, I agree that Israel is run by terrible people, but that has virtually nothing to do with Auschwitz and holocaust memorial sites, except that they should maybe also remember that genocide is bad. People talking of "guilt cult" blow into a similar horn as Israeli government.

>>22064 >Hans Fantastic own, Burim. As if Hans wasn't a traditional name here too or something. Try Uwe or Detlef next time.

>>22066 Kek, I didn't even think of that, but also, no one under 70 is named Hans here or there. It's just the generic online name for Germans, like Ueli, Ivan or Tyrone.

>>22065 >but that has virtually nothing to do with Auschwitz and holocaust memorial sites They LITERALLY ask for gibs and submarines from Germany based on MUH SIX GORILLION and our politicians abide by those demands PRECISELY because of MUH ETERNAL GUILT.

>>22069 Make it make sense. These are the finances of Auschwitz Birkenau.

>>22070 You are (intentionally?) missing the point >>22069 made.

>>22071 Wasn't the point that Germany finances Auschwitz?

>>22072 No, it was that Israel is dependent on the whole Ausschwitz (((remembrance culture))) to constantly remind Germany of its ((((historische Verantwortung))) to constantly squeeze money out of Germany.

>>22072 No the point was Germany finances Israel based on Auschwitz and everything associated.

>>22075 Please don't säge all the time, it reminds me of Lurch-postig.

>>22076 >postig *posting

>>22076 No idea who or what that is, but I sage shit thread and my shit posts on principle.

>>22075 >>22074 But this thread isn't about Israel at all. It's about Poland. Stop making everything about Israel.

>>22080 Poland is trying the same as Israel, but since they're Pooles nobody cares lol.

>>22067 Or Bernd. Anyway, I mentioned to some friends recently that I'd like to go to Poland and Czechia some time in the future to see some castles and oldtowns (such as Krakow) and they immediately went on and on about how I just HAVE TO visit Auschwitz, so sad, never again and so on. So yeah, I don't have a stake in it, but the whole focus on concentration camps is sort of annoying. It reminds me a bit of gawkers at an accident site. I'd rather see some old Jewish historical sites there and in Prague, in addition to Christian ones.

>>22085 But is it not like how people who go to Hiroshima also go to the nuclear bomb museum? One of the major sights in the area? I googled top sights krakow and I quote the first hit: >My number one choice is probably Auschwitz, due to the immensely important historical significance. That said, I think some of the other options are so great that you may want to consider taking more than one day trip from Krakow. And this is from an American travel blogger who also lived in Spain and the UK. I suppose, there is a universal interest, since it's an important part of history. I know that some Germans fight for forgetting that part, but if you go to Nanjing, you probably will visit the memorial hall, even though some Japanese chuds seethe about it.

>>22087 Some places become just so overloaded with assumed "cultural significance" that people don't dare shoving that away. Best place in that regard is Nagasaki IMO. Most people simply don't visit it because it is so far off the standard tourist route, so nobody cares if you visit the atomic bomb memorial sites or just admire the rest of it. Which is absolutely beautiful, BTW. Some of the best time I've had in my two months in Japan.

>>22088 To be fair, Hiroshima is also an ugly city and the museum in Hiroshima is much better than the one in Nagasaki.

An interesting one is Mittelbau-Dora. Located in the Harz mountains they built it next to an old mining shaft, and had the inmates produce V1 and V2 rockets. There is not much left of the production site to see, as they blew up the mines at the end of the war. You can go inside for 100-200 meters. Pretty interesting though.