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No.

Maybe.

The main defect of modernity is that it rejects the existence of the spiritual and metaphysical world. I strongly believe in the eternity of the soul, thus in a life after death and as a Christian in the existence of heaven and hell.

This world we live in is Hell

>>20343 It's as bad as you make it, really.

>>20338 No. Everyone who does in any other than a strict metaphorical sense is a retard.

>do u believe in magic No.

Yes.

No.

I think it's possible other worlds exist, but there is no way to know. At least not yet.

>>20344 It's as bad as those around you make it

I didn't believe in heaven, but I believe in hell. Those who are winners in life get rewarded in hell, they get to be the demons lieutenants and are allowed to partake in the torture of do-gooders. The "good" people get punished in hell, for trying to be virtuous.

>heaven, hell or other worlds No, No, very likely

>>20394 What makes "other worlds" (whatever that means) more likely than heaven or hell?

I don't think so. It would be nice if some kind of after life existed though. But I don't think it does. So instead I have to become immortal.

Other worlds exist in the sense that there is so much humans don't understand. At one time, looking through a microscope was to look into another world. Then we learned of bacteria, then molecules, then atoms, and now we are beginning to understand quantums but they are very mysterious. 100 years ago, flight was new. 50 years ago, the Moon was another world. We are still discovering new worlds today but the universe is vast and there is still so much we don't understand. All that said, I reject the idea that man of the past knew of worlds that we don't know of today. It is implausible. We are in a vastly better position today to understand these worlds than mankind has ever been.

I believe in hell. Hell is France and all its inhabitants are fucked up demons. Nothing could save this godforsaken place sending its shapeless creatures on Switzerland by waves. I hate this country of stuck in the past lusty retards

>>20396 It's extremely unlikely that some bronze age made up fantasy worlds actually exist as they've been told to exist even if there are "other worlds" out there.

>>20462 Why do you still believe the official history?

>>20446 >its shapeless creatures I thought the French are pretty fit

>>20464 People don't believe historical accounts blindly. Historical accounts are filled with talk about the Gods, mythical creatures, Herculean efforts, inflated odds, general propaganda, etc. However, we can compare this to what we already know is true and attempt to determine what is true and what is not. This is completely different from an old book book about the Gods, or mythical creatures, or magic, none of which have any evidence to back them.

>>20532 >People don't believe historical accounts blindly. In Germany and 17 other countries you are requiered by law to do exactly that. Also most people (~95%) believe most of their worldview blindly. And dismissing tales of mythical creatures as mere fiction without any degree of being rooted in real occurences I find just ignorant. "Gods" could simply be members of antedeluvian civilizations, for instance.

>>20543 >In Germany and 17 other countries you are required by law to do exactly that. We have professionals who spend their entire careers studying historical accounts. Nobody believes the Iliad or the Odyssey blindly, nor are you required to.

>>20574 >being rooted in real occurrences Everything is rooted in real occurrences, even Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings. They are still fiction.

>>20574 >Nobody believes the Iliad or the Odyssey blindly, nor are you required to. Everybody is reguired to treat them as fiction, just like every scientist was required to view the story of Troy as fiction. Until it was proven to be actual reality.

>>20574 >We have professionals who spend their entire careers studying historical accounts. Rather studying the official summaries of said dcuments. Watch some videos from David Irving to get a new perspective on how "historians" work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zusUe3sjMbw

>>20576 >Harry Potter Based on real life boarding schools for the Elite, including occult studies. >Lord of the Rings Based on real antedeluvian history.

Afterlife - no. The platonic realm, maybe. But it exists only in that it supervenes on the real world, it's not something you could get isekai'd into.

>>20593 >The platonic realm, maybe. Doesn't imply the concept of a soul then the existence of a soul?

>>20596 Mostly it implies the existence of math. I suppose if you can imagine something, it exists in the platonic plane, but that doesn't tell us whether it has other links to the real world other than one's imagination. So a soul that is identical to what is inhabiting your head right now would exist, but it's not eternal as your death would cause its link to the real world to be permanently severed.

>>20604 >but it's not eternal as your death would cause its link to the real world to be permanently severed Thousands of testimonies on near-death-experiences say otherwise. But I guess continuing this conversation is pointless since you are not willing to let go of your materialist worldview.

>>20610 > since you are not willing to let go of your materialist worldview Excuse me my bookshelf contains actual occult works. I'm certainly willing to entertain spiritual views, but I will hold them to the same standards as others. But maybe try explaining your notion of souls as you would to a materialist?

>>20610 PS: near death experiences don't count since it's the same physical substrate before and after. The day we manage two swap two souls between brains, I may reconsider.

>>20396 Sorry, I read "other worlds" as populated planets, and not > 'Twas in the darkest depths of Mordor / I met a girl so fair/ But Gollum and the evil one / Crept up and slipped away with her, her, her, her, her, yeah

>>20590 > antedeluvian history. The antediluvian kings

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>>20543 Or they could be reptilians or alliens. >>20587 Troy was never proven to be reality. It is probably based on something but it is by no means reality. >>20610 There ate thousands of testimonies of Aliens and Bigfoot too.

I believe in a cosmology that reflects the Eternal Recurrence. The Universe will eventually stop expanding, begin to contract, and eventually coalesce into a single point in space and time. This will initiate a Big Bang, rebirthing the universe. The subsequent Universe will only survive if it follows the same physcial rules as this one, and as such, it will repeat itslef exactly as it did before. Concordantly, everything that has happened and will happened has occured innifinetly before and will continue to do so infinitely. The live you are leading has been and will be replayed inifnitely, and nothing will change the course of events. Whether this is heaven or hell is dependent on the type of person you are.

>>20695 >Troy was never proven to be reality. It's ruins were literally found over a hundred years ago.

>>20695 >There ate thousands of testimonies of Aliens and Bigfoot too. Making it very unlikely that they are ALL lying or otherwise not telling the truth. Just 1% of them being factual is more than enough to question our current understanding of reality. >Or they could be reptilians or alliens. Ever wondered what the term "nephilim" implies?

I believe in the kraut (called by abrahamic religions "heaven") and the kohl (aka hell)

>>20968 And who is the prophet(penis be upon him)?

>>20824 Ruins that could be Troy where found, there are multiple potential sites. But that has nothing to do with Achilles being shot in the foot or Athena throwing a tantrum and sinking Paris's fleet now does it? >>20826 Many of them aren't lying persay, they are just mistaking satellites for UFOs or bears for werewolves or bigfoot.

>>20338 no, no and no

>>20826 >Just 1% of them being factual is more than enough to question our current understanding of reality. Unless it's 0% everytime.

>>21500 Whatever lets you sleep at night.

>>20386 Ever the krauttrerian, here’s an idea; Mix 60% hydrogen peroxide Add sulfur, slowly while mixing Drink the solution ? Profit! You’ll be able to tell us all about your made up fairy world after you visit the river styx just be sure to bring a couple euro for Charon

>>21527 Charon probably wouldn't accept Eurosbecuase they aren't made of gold and we don't know if the underworld bank would accept it as currency. Presumably not as there is no currency exchange between the EU and the underworld.

>>21526 You know, there also thousands of people who believe in Harry Potter. Just 1% of them being factual is more than enough to question our current understanding of reality.

>>21537 That does raise the question of how and why these people pick certain stories as factual over others.

>>21538 It is called "wishful thinking".

>>21539 True. For example, there are Bernds so hellbent on believing they really, really understand the world that they spend time and effort ridiculing others' worldviews. How silly is that?

I believe in the singularity saving us all.

>>21546 Well, not all. I hope you have the funds to equip your future AI heir with enough financial mobility to actually make its immortality count, gains over time forever and ever. Then we enslave those pesky fleshbags.

>>21547 Human brains have like 1 to 100 exa FLOPs. Once we have AI superintelligence, it will be nice to all humans cause it wants dem brainz.

>>21548 Don't hold onto your flesh, as if it wouldn't fail and betray you.